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…modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display content you submit or make available other than photos, graphics, audio or video."

TOS number 15 bullet #3

I’m not an intellectual property attorney but I have two questions:
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If I wrote a song and posted a video of my performance, an audio file, a pic and lyrics on my infinityfree hosted site then…
On the video I’m not granting InfiinityFree such perpetual license
On the audio I’m not granting InfiinityFree such perpetual license
On the pic I’m not granting InfiinityFree such perpetual license either
On the lyrics AM I then granting InfiinityFree with such perpetual license?

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Do those same terms also apply to the paid hosting accounts?

Thanks in advance for your explanation on this

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HI
video files take too much to load

reason is:
server uses bandwidth throttling to actively limit the user’s upload and download rates on programs such as video streaming and other file sharing stuff
or simply distributes resources due to burdens

I would recommend you to upload your video to youtube or vimeo
( if you do not infringe any copyrights ) and then use the appropriate code to embed video from these services on your website

also max file size is 10MB (to low for video files)

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also if you are a producer or “DJ”
you want that your mp3 to be 320 kbps
and on that quality such mp3 will probably exceed the 10MB limit
btw. mp3 is also a streaming!

for other questions the admin will answer

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Thank you for your reply. However, uploading any files was a totally hipothethical situation with one single purpose: To help them illustrate ni simple terms the scope of the intelectual property language included in the Terms of Service

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I see you paid a lot of attention to the terms, but I think you missed a few important parts.

With respect to photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service other than InfinityFree Servers, the license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Service solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available.

Basically, it means that if you upload, say, a photo to your hosting account, then you give us permission to display that photo on your website and to distribute the photo using our servers. We may also “adapt” the content by, for example, compressing it to safe bandwidth.

Also, this permission is NOT perpetual, as explained by the last sentence in that paragraph:

This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on the Service and will terminate at the time you remove or InfinityFree removes such Content from the Service.

In other words, by removing the content from your account, you automatically cancel our license to use the content. So the license does not apply for any longer than you want to.

The license which IS perpetual is this one:

With respect to Content other than photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service other than InfinityFree Servers, the perpetual, irrevocable and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed.

This refers to all your submissions except for the content publish to your own website. Like these forum posts, for example!

@Coller-Roaster said:
If I wrote a song and posted a video of my performance, an audio file, a pic and lyrics on my infinityfree hosted site then…
On the video I’m not granting InfiinityFree such perpetual license
On the audio I’m not granting InfiinityFree such perpetual license
On the pic I’m not granting InfiinityFree such perpetual license either
On the lyrics AM I then granting InfiinityFree with such perpetual license?

Content which is published to your website is covered by the first bullet point. Which does not include a perpetual license.

@Coller-Roaster said:
Do those same terms also apply to the paid hosting accounts?

I think they do, or at least terms like them, but you should ask iFastNet yourself to be sure (they provide the premium hosting, not us). These policies are basically common sense for hosting services, but captured in legal documents.

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Thank you so much for this explanation. It was holding me up because the jargon was beyond my intellectual ability.

Now I have a question that might be suitable for another topic. I disabled “ublock origin” for your site but the site keeps suggesting that the adblocker is on AND I can’t see any ads (not that I want to but I totally understand that’s how this service is funded). I don’t know if Linux, Firefox or the ublock add-on is at fault but it would be great to figure that out. I’d like for this endeavor of yours to be worth it. That’s my configuration. You might want to test that configuration on a virtual machine to asses the matter.

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On a related topic, what type of email activity from third parties will I experience once I start the service?

Will companies identify themselves as your partners in some way so that I do not mark this correspondence as spam?

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if you think of this

984×73 7.28 KB

this is normal because it is not a commercial but just an informative text (suggestion)

if you see ads here in the forum and in the client area then everything is fine

third parties mails - ifastnet sent periodically some mails regarding their premium features (1-3 in 6 months)

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That’s precisely the problem. I see no ads but ublock origin is off on this site.

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What other parties get our email addresses? Do you know? Iit would be geat having a quick summary of the legal jargon in the ppriivacy yoplicy so we could learn in a few lines who ends up getting our contact info.

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I would say just ifastnet because it is necessary (acc, abuse, suspense, communicating, etc.)

of course,
if you want to buy a premium then it is necessary to processing credit card payments
and then the third parties are included or if you are willing to fill out the surveys (I have never got it in the inbox).

In addition, depending on which features you use
this list is about data ( does not have to mean it’s an email address)

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Ok, if that’s it, I’m starting to feel very guilty about my adblock. Admin please just send me a link of just ads then with your referral id. I’ll click on all of them. That should be a great business model. No ads or nothing disruptive on the service but you have to click on 10 ads per week or something like that. Oh well.

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Ad blocker detection is quite hard to do, as there is no standard for ad blockers to announce themselves they are blocking ads. Ad blocker detection is generally a bit hacky. And ours doesn’t work very well, as people often see that message even when their ad blocker is turned off.

@Coller-Roaster said:
Ok, if that’s it, I’m starting to feel very guilty about my adblock. Admin please just send me a link of just ads then with your referral id. I’ll click on all of them. That should be a great business model. No ads or nothing disruptive on the service but you have to click on 10 ads per week or something like that. Oh well.

Actually, most ad providers don’t allow that. The legitimate ones don’t, anyways. Companies pay advertisement brokers to get new potential customers, not to sponsor websites they may have never heard of.

Ad brokers who aren’t harsh on click fraud do exist, but tend to pay much less. Companies know they will get worthless traffic when dealing with such advertising companies.

So please don’t start to frantically click every ad you find. If AdSense terminates us for click fraud, that would not be good for the viability of free hosting.

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Thanks for the enlightment on the ads matter. Would you mind to please share with us your privacy policy in lay tems? What companies get access to our names and emals and so on? It’s my last step. To give you an idea I rarely ever got spam until I opened an account with a social media company I’m not going to mention here but I knew this came from them even after I closed my account with them because I scrutinize the best I can (within my scope) the very little amount of services I use. Free items have a cost for users (typically a privacy compromise type of thing) which is fine when users understand what’s implied and know what to expect. In the mean time providers of free services need to be able to profit or they will not be around. Attorney jargon is very generic in order to cover for every possible future liability situation and for companies to be able to expand. Today’s use of our info might not be tomorrow’s use of it as companies change strategies or change owners altogether and our info is an impportant part of the assets. I’m not asking for anything binding, but maybe a practical description would do. Like OxyDac said, ifastnet is an example. A list of current partners and their websites would be awesome and I’d like to learn if when we sign up with you we also end up under the terms of thrd party privacy policies and if they in turn have also access to our info and full discretion to make it available to their partners and so on. Can you make an in good faith and practical but non legal binding description of your privacy policy?

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I meant non legally* binding (above)

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also https://giphy.com/gifs/WS4iZ49tEXoHes0iVi/html5

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Is the admin taking a vacation? The lack of a reply to such an important question is a bt unsettling

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@Coller-Roaster said:
Is the admin taking a vacation? The lack of a reply to such an important question is a bt unsettling

It’s still 4:14 AM in the place where he lives.