Are there any website editors on softaculous that can generate a site with flat html/css and doesnt require a database or php for the generated site
Thanks
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Softaculous installs things on your hosting account, so it would have to be a static site generated written in PHP. Not sure too many of those exist as PHP is not really meant for that.
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it looks like sitecake is available from infinityfree cpanel softaculous , i’ll try it thanks
oh btw that page is telling me I have infinite storage instead of 5GB 
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free = limited to 15 themes,1 Site, 3 pages and maybe another limits for export
but such similar tools also exist online directly
I don’t know what you need it for
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just experimenting
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If you find a good one, then let us know so we can suggest to users that they use it instead of site.pro or WordPress (if they want to have small static pages).
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will do for sure
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heh right out of the box its got issues, I might spend the time fixing the source code if that is allowed ?
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Back when Sitecake 2.2.10 (the version available in Softaculous) was released, it was under the terms of the GPLv2 (or any later version) license, so you definitely can!
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it might be worth my time trying to find a working live demo or video before spending time fixing it as it may not be a great editor ?
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I wish something like this would exist too. But I haven’t really found any good, free drag-and-drop builders myself either.
Some possible options you could consider:
- A simple flat file CMS. WonderCMS is one potential option I found.
- Still use WordPress, but use something like Simply Static to generate a static version of the site.
The reality I’ve accepted is that building a good website builder is just too difficult. People want to have a wide selection of themes, components, features and flexibility in their content. No open source project I know has this.
WordPress is a special case because it doesn’t actually have the features, but it’s so popular that a very big ecosystem has grown around it that can provide hundreds of thousands of plugins and themes to provide whatever design and functionality that anyone could wish for.
Everyone else basically lost the race, if they ever even got off the starting line. I suspect an absolute majority of all websites hosted here are running WordPress, and only a small part of all sites use any other CMS. While other projects like Joomla were able to compete at some point, they are now relegated to being the “niche” underdogs, because they just can’t compete for features and design.
Any new open source project just can’t catch up, because you need so many features and so many themes to even be considered as a viable alternative.
You can still build something that can compete, but it requires a lot of initial investment to build the dozens of modules and hundreds of themes. So the companies that do compete are essentially forced to charge money for their product, either by charging license fees to website owners or hosts (e.g. SitePad, Site.pro, Kopage), or by just completely vertically integrating the entire solution and only selling hosting bundles (e.g. Squarespace, Weebly).
Site.pro is written in PHP. I think SitePad is too. I think PHP is perfectly fine if you’re creating a website builder that can be used in a browser.
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I know this sounds nasty but I think a site builder could also be written in javascript 
running locally in the browser !
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I really agree on this, especially being a web systems developer in the industry myself, having a full-blown CMS is just not viable when considering open-source as free labour.
Meanwhile, client expectations are open-ended, and having a system that is also open-ended means AI, but AI is also not the kind of tool to solve specific system development tasks like this. Ask ChatGPT to create a website for you and you get a poorly-designed HTML page that might just as well sections from somewhere’s Github repo remixed.
WordPress on the other hand gains popularity simply because of money and simplicity. Everyone wants to have everything for free, hence most people go with paying minimum on hosting (or even free) to get something going, and WordPress + WooCommerce allows them to do so. As long as more people have the technical skills to run a free WordPress website, they will, until they realise thay have to pay as much to develop a custom system for addons in the premium plugins.
Actually developing something like this is easy, but whether it’s feature-rich that’s another story. At least you need to have a centralised location for storing the themes and having a standardised way for allowing the editor recongising all different types of layouts, not to mention dynamic data loops. Frankly, storing HTML + CSS in JSON while having some smart code writing the JavaScript for form building (yes HTML includes form, so your drag and drop editor better has a form builder as well, at least this is the part where most would struggle).
Cheers!
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@Tim401 yeah that looks nice thanks
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I love to see how you get on - please post your progress
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will do for sure , thanks 
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