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Perhaps I am not clear enough.
The name of the AUR package is call downgrade.
Do not let this name mislead you.
The true power of downgrade is the ability to do version switching.
Once bugs are eliminated or when you are ready, you can switch to a newer version package anytime

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Hmm whats the point of having arch linux server and not ubuntu or debian or alma linux server? i dont see a clear benefit of using arch linux for server

for me i dont really mind much about new software update or stuff, i just care that if it work then it work, no update, no fix, just work for a long time without maintaince or restart

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Well, for me it is very simple.
If you want flexibility, choose Arch.
Get Debian if you want stability.
It all depends on your use case

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ehh windows is better XD (jkjk)

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Still there are not a lot of benefits I can see on an Arch Linux server. The flexibility it gives you on desktops is what has exactly destroyed it on a server.


FYI, For more enterprise level cases there’s a much more simple yet fundamental issue: if something went wrong you cannot call Arch Linux to solve it for you.
There’re also many enterprise softwares that simply aren’t geared towards Arch. And if these things went wrong the company still cannot call anyone because the vendors usually don’t support unsupported OSes.

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OK so there’re lots of servers going on here…

2012 R2, 2016/2019, wonder if you have ESU for that 2012 R2 machine

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1 2019 server for backup my database and store some random things like my old backend and payment bills, 1 for running navicat, 2012 is for 1 second payment api cron jobs, cant let my customer wait for a whole minutes to proccess the payment :zany_face: (yep, 2019 servers are both crashed for no reason and i have to login and turn it back on again, average windows server belike XD)

(edit: ohh my vps provider having a bit problem that making some nodes crashed, no wonder why all of my windows server crashes, i guess this is the biggest reason why we should not use cheap vps lol)

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Ohhh I see, BTW what is your local OS version, I know it’s Windows 10 but what exactly that thing is :zany_face: I guess 22H2 is the most common but might as well be 1809 (LTSC 2019?), who knows

And I hope you have ESU on that 2012 R2 server because if you don’t then it’s like running CentOS 7 in 2025

I personally prefers the 2019 (1809, 17763, whatever you call it) version the most but for it’s aesthetics only, like this particular Windows version is super unstable for some random reasons :rofl:

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say hello to my dell vostro 3450 from 10 years ago XD (yes this is my main craptop, i have enough money to rent 128 core 2tb ram vps but wont pay for new laptop XD)

for most of the time im actually coding on vps server so purchasing a new laptop to me feel kinda waste of money so im keeping this ancient thing on me and earn money online with it. Good old Chrome and Remote Desktop Connection XD

what is that? never heard before, im just using a simple python script for cron jobs, no heavy job lol

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Extended security updates. So you keep getting official security updates on Windows 10, even though it’s unsupported at large.

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Extended Security Updates, 2012 R2 have already reached EOL on 2023 so unless you have ESU which gives you another 3 years of update you are pretty much just running an unsupported OS just like CentOS 7

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i think it is quite unnecessary for a cron jobs server, i dont do much with it more than running a simple python script

hmm i have no idea why im using windows server 2012 but not centos…

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No no no, that’s just a recent news about Windows 10 EOL, ESU is not a Windows 10 only thing.

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I’m aware.

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At least that will fix the packages in place. But distros like Debian and Ubuntu also:

  • Have feature freezes on releases for months before the release date, to ensure the entire distribution is extensively tested before you have to touch it.
  • Backport bugfixes and security fixes from newer software in this older version. So even if the version number suggests you’re running an unsafe outdated version, the actual vulnerability was solved.
  • Give you a consistent foundation that everyone shares. My Debian 12 server has the exact same software versions as your Debian 12 server, so I know that my Debian 12 program will not have any version conflicts on your Debian 12 server. And you’ll be able to run other software for Debian 12 on that same system, because everyone tests their software against the same library versions.

On a stable operation system, you donĀ“t even really have to check updates, what’s new in a new version and see if it doesn’t break anything. You can basically update it blindly, because you know there will not be any feature changes, just bugfixes and security fixes.


So on a desktop of hobby system? Knock yourself out, it’s a unique system and nobody but you suffers if it breaks. For servers of an organization? You definitely don’t want this unpredictability.

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Here’s my only concern. Is their intention to ā€œsupport great contentā€ actually true? Ever since i use Tailscale VPN on Google Cloud VM in Singapore, yes i only see ads in English, but they mostly keep promoting AI services :man_facepalming:

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I think this is a new Google Ads feature where one can put a survey on it

BTW I see cPanel in the tabs, what hosting are you using :laughing:

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cPanel demo account, sadly. Their plans are freakin’ expensive :pensive_face:

I found several of them, here’s cPanel’s own, iFastNet, HostPapa, and inMotion

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cPanel is the perfect definition of a bad user experience in my point of view. No idea why it gets that popular…


I’m setting up fail2ban on my minecraft server, those silly hackers are always trying to brute force SSH

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umm you can use uhh proxy thing ykyk? it work fine for me for most of the case

uhh the program still running fine, what button should i press??

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